Interesting thread.This helps with my collection of modern examples as most dismiss the 1800's stuff I produce.
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HERE'S A BOMBSHELL ABOUT THE 144,000 DOCTRINE......
by Mary injust when you think you've heard it all............in my research for my project, i was doing some digging around on the subject of the 144,000 and came across something in the wts's literature that absolutely stunned me and, being the generous soul that i am , wanted to pass it on to you to get your thoughts on this.. .
we all know that the society teaches that the 144,000 mentioned in revelation is speaking of "spiritual israel" and not 'fleshly israel' or even other christians in general right?
there are countless quotes throughout the literature that we are all familiar with that specifically state this, but to drive home a point, here are a few:.
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Excellent find. I shall be using this soon.
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Aug 2008 KM
by ernie indon't know if already posted , but august 2008 kingdom ministry gives details on 2008/9 assemblies.
it also confirms that the cos will be in place for at least the next service year as it refers to them taking assembly parts on both the spec day & the assembly.. special day theme is "keep watching the ministry - that you fulfill it" (col 4:17) lots of fs related parts - symposiums on how young & old find fulfillment in the ministry etc , interviews with youths , kids & old folks.. ca theme is "keep conquering the evil with good.
" includes a symposium on "stand firm against the devil's crafty acts" - "help us identify & reject sly machinations of the devil in the fields of technology , entertainment & eduction.".
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Big brother can act fast if he wants to even if it means making someone homeless.
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Judicial Committee formed, can they do that with only one "witness"?
by BonaFide ini have started to read about cults with the book by steve hassan.
i look over my shoulder at the library, no way in the world i will check it out or buy it and take it home.
thank you all for your recommendations.
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If you were a CO and have been asked to be a PO why are you asking such basic questions?
Fake perhaps?
If you are, dont waste our time my friend, there are far more serious subjects to debate on here.
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Neil Atkinson
Robert Maybe
Clive Upton (uuurrrrrrrghhh)
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Suicide and Explosion at Kingdom Hall
by worf indon't know if this was already posted:.
see below news story on suicide in a jw kingdom hall.. .
ad link ad link bates city church explosion kills onelast edited: saturday, 26 jul 2008, 9:41 pm cdt created: saturday, 26 jul 2008, 6:41 pm cdt investigators searched the scene of an explosion at a jehovah's witness' kingdom hall in bates city, mo.
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S EIGHT
Wow - would be interested to know the story behind that.
I feel sorry for those that are left behind to deal with it.
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How many youths left the WTS in the mid to late 90's?
by Greensleeves inahh!
grunge music was at it's height, rebellion was at the forefront.
all of my friends left the kingdom hall like a wave of rebellion.
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S EIGHT
Let me type this slowly for you.
I said: I progressed up the ladder and gained a position in the congo.
This is a PI$$ take - no such thing as progression, ladder or position.
Then I said: The closer I got to the centre of what was going on the more I realised it was wrong
The centre of the congo - not the org. After 30 years it's easier than you think to get stuck in and start playing with peoples lives - mikes would have been nice but public talks, accounts conducting a book study for 5 years and herding really does allow you to have some control on people especially when you slip in apostate ideas from time to time. While it's a fake authority, it is an authority as people follow you like you'd never believe.
The point I wanted you to understand is that while loads got disfellowshipped none came back apart from two of us and both of us didn't last. Worse still my mate went off the rails so bad he killed himself on booze and drugs. I'm sure he was pleased I conducted his apostate funeral. So yes you were right, the cobain generation as I called it (he ended it in my view) left a mark on the org.
It's going to happen again. I had 3 teenagers in my bookstudy on tranquilizers. This time round it will be worse and it wont be disfellowshipping that leaves a mark on the org it will be teens taking their lives. It's already becomming a craze in the UK and I suspect it will soon reach the org.
It's good to know you think I suck really bad. Gave me a smile coming from someone who knows little about S8. I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't get me head far enough up my arse.
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How many youths left the WTS in the mid to late 90's?
by Greensleeves inahh!
grunge music was at it's height, rebellion was at the forefront.
all of my friends left the kingdom hall like a wave of rebellion.
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I was 18 in 1988.
From 1988 to 1993 a total of 11 teens were disfellowshipped. 2 of us returned to regain our families.
I progressed up the ladder and gained a position in the congo. The closer I got to the centre of what was going on the more I realised it was wrong so I became an apostate. The other person got reinstated and never came to a meeting.
So that's 11 lost. Disfellowshipping works huh?
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Matthew 25:13
by S EIGHT inmonring all,.
i have decided to go back to basics and just read the bible alone, trying to eliminate wt influence from my mind as i read.
it's amazing what you see in the scriptures when you just look at the scriptures.. can anyone shed some light on the following - in particular verse 13:.
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Thanks for the correction on the chapter and thanks for the reference.
As I suspected a lame explanation.
For some reason this one really gets me. I think it's the sort of question you can ask a JW without sounding apostate and it should stump them - albeit not a striking revelation but it may plant a seed.
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Matthew 25:13
by S EIGHT inmonring all,.
i have decided to go back to basics and just read the bible alone, trying to eliminate wt influence from my mind as i read.
it's amazing what you see in the scriptures when you just look at the scriptures.. can anyone shed some light on the following - in particular verse 13:.
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Interesting reading.
I was hoping to see if the watchtower has ever commented on this scripture in regards to is ministry message.
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